86: Stop Playing the Victim: How Paul Turned $12K of Debt into a Million-Dollar Business
Behind Their Success: Episode 86
[00:00:00] It all comes from your philosophy. You growth oriented, you look at the cop as half full
or half empty. your gut, your belief, your personality, your desire, your hunger responsibility.
That's what determines what's gonna happen.
Hello everybody. Welcome to Behind Their Success Podcast. I'm Paden Squires, the host, and
today we have on Paul Tembunde. Paul is a business executive mindset coach and co-founder
of a multimillion dollar home care agency. He launched with just a $12,000 credit card loan. Now
he's the CEO of Premier Destiny, LLC.
Paden: Paul empowers others to unlock their potential and build their own economy. Get ready
for some powerful insights from Paul. Paul, good morning. Welcome all in.
Paul: So inviting me on your podcast be.
Absolutely Paul. So, um, we've got a little bit of your background there. tell us a little bit about
[00:01:00] who Paul is and, and kind of, uh, your story and how you got to where you are today.
Paul: Oh, thank you,
Payden. I'm delighted. let me just say that my story wouldn't be complete without my wife and I
will talk about her in a little bit here. Um, Payden. I am an immigrant from, uh, Cameron, west
Africa. I came here a few years ago. Actually several years ago, for college. Okay. I came in for
college and then, I stayed for the dream.
All right then. That's, that's, that's a short, short version of it. Okay. Um, you know, I came in for
college and like I said, went through undergrad. It was a really torture shock for me. Had no
uncles or aunts here had to kind of, you know, work my way around. I had some family
members here, you know, that were already here and, but to learn how to learn the culture, how
to learn the American system, how to learn, how to survive on my own for, for the most part.
And it was, it was, it was a challenge, I'll tell you that. It was a challenge, but I loved it. I enjoyed
it because the American people, what I realized pretty quickly was that the American people are
very loving, very [00:02:00] giving, very understanding people, and the system is set up to help
you win, okay? That's what the system is, and it sometimes takes while to figure it out, but the
system is set up to make you win.
It's what I came up to. We came to find out, Peter, I gotta tell you, when I started, when I came
here, my accent was a lot more difficult, It was harder, understand me than it is now. Okay? So it
was interesting, uh, there was this gentleman I met while I was in college.
He was a janitor. Nice gentleman. Real nice gentleman. But every time I want to talk to him, he'd
say, repeat it. Repeat it. Eventually say, write it down, because I was that, I mean, I was that
hard to understand. so I figured, I said, well, if I, if I'm gonna get around here, I mean, uh, I'm
gonna have to carrying something to write on, I don't wanna do that.
So I quickly adapted so I could speak so folks could, uh, could understand me and I'm still
working on it. completed undergrad and then, was thinking about graduate school. wanted to be
a stockbroker, but I figured, well, I mean, do I really wanna do that now? Um, decided to, I.
[00:03:00] Gone on to, uh, graduate school, but they were still doing the same kind of jobs that
they were doing while they were undergrad.
So I figured, well, you know, if I'm gonna do that, what's the point? Right? So I decided to look
around got some jobs. I mean, I used to work as a security guard when I was going to college.
Finished that. I got into a leasing, it was a leasing consultant when I graduated college.
Still trying to figure out what I wanted to do because that was big thing cousin introduced am. So
that this is kind of, this is kind of dating me here, Paden, but you, you get it? So,
Paden: Yeah. Yeah.
Paul: yeah, yeah. You, you dressed me Amway, right. And, uh, he said, well, you can make
some good money doing this. I said, okay, whatever.
You know. So I got in there and got my kit, got my kit, and uh, got, I was really excited, pumped.
Just, man, this is my American dream. Here I come right. And I get in there and, uh, couldn't sell
much. Okay. Couldn't sell much. I mostly sold to myself and then, then I bought some other stuff.
Give it that as gifts to other one, other people.
And of course [00:04:00] you can't make money that way. Right. but I learned something
payden, I was introduced to personal development that changed my life.
Paden: Um,
Paul: I was introduced to books, motivational books. Uh, they told me I could be whatever I
wanted to do, if I was willing to work for it. I was hooked.
Okay. I started reading those books, started learning, growing, you know, and I, and I realized
that the most important work I had to do was gonna be within, not outside, you know? Yes.
Challenges were, were gonna exist, they were gonna be out there. But the most important work
I had to do was within, so I started learning, started growing, and I, my dreams kind of grew.
Okay? I wanted more. And then, um, my wife eventually joined me from, uh, from England. She
was in England studying 'cause when we're my wife and I, high school sweethearts. Okay. So
when I left to come here, she went to England for studies. She had just graduated her master's
degree and so she came to join me so it could hopefully start a family.
Uh, when she came by, um, she saw, she's always excited about, I was about working for
[00:05:00] myself. She also started little jobs here and there. Uh, in fact, she had a master's
degree at paid in, but couldn't get a good job. Okay. I mean, it is what it is. Uh, she worked one
time as a cashier, okay. Uh, and then she eventually got into nursing as a certified nursing
assistant, taking care of seniors.
Okay? This is what we did. She did. And, um, kind of work way up. Um. And then eventually we
said, well, you know, we got into the it, you know, 'cause it BOOM started. So we got into it, she
became a database administrator and I became a Microsoft Systems engineer. Now I thought I
hit a big time payden. I really thought I, because initially prior to that we couldn't pay.
We had, we were renting a one bedroom apartment and um, I was making such little money that
I could not even afford to pay the rent on my check. Okay. I had to get my wife's check had to
my check to pay the month rent. I mean, you know, we were, uh, you know, the meal
Paden: Scraping by. Yeah. Fighting.
Paul: it was a case case where there was a lot, [00:06:00] a lot more month left at the end of the
money.
Okay. But, uh, we lost it. We loved it. I mean, we're just, it was just her and me and, you know,
and, and so we're just figuring out what we're gonna do. Okay. We didn't kind of, you know, so, I
mean, it was tough. It was challenging, but we. We wanted to do better do. So when we got onto
this it, you know, space making a lot more money than I'd ever made.
I mean, I could be able to afford our townhouse. So we're excited, started having kids and we
found out pretty quickly that, uh, as much as we're doing well, you know, uh, we again, running
outta money before the month would run out. Okay, so, um, wanted to be able to save some
money for the kids, put 'em to good schools, that type of thing.
It wasn't gonna happen on what we were doing. We kind of figured out pretty quickly. Um, so we
started looking around being folks who wanted to work for themselves. Well figure it's always
good to work for someone. I mean, I love that. I mean, I worked for people, no problem at all.
But at some point I wanted to control my own destiny.[00:07:00]
I wanna be able to control when I took my vacations, if I took my vacations, where I went, how
long I went. If I wanted to give to Charity, charity, how much could I give to charity? I wanna be
able to, you know, do something good for my employees. What could I do, right? If I wanted to
work hard, if I wanted work, 24 hours, that'd be on me and I love working, you know, for others
and I was happy doing it. But at some point, well, why do I control some of that? Okay. I mean,
what are controls for my raises, for example. I mean, why should I get just a, a 2% or three,
whatever?
Why not do something with me? So it got us thinking and we said, well, we need to be business
for ourselves. That was, that was the decision that my wife and I came up to. We have to be
business for ourselves. we decided to, uh, we start looking around, obviously, checking things
out. We couldn't buy McDonald's, right?
I mean, it was kind of, we didn't have that kind of money paid to buy McDonald's, uh, uh, fry. We
couldn't do that. Uh, we loved real estate, but we couldn't really, you know, we didn't have
enough money to get into that business at that time. and so my wife, remember I [00:08:00] told
you my wife had, had been working as a certified nursing assistant, take care of seniors, right?
She said, well. I think there's some potassium to that. So we vest ated that industry and come to
find out there was some potential in there. So we signed up for it and we had no money.
Meaning we, again, like I said, we had good jobs, but it was ba it was keeping us afloat, is what
it was doing. so fortunately for us, we had a credit card, uh, and I think, I think it had a maximum
of like $13,000 I believe on there.
And we took a cash advance, you know, a. Purchased a franchise. We invested in a business
for ourselves. And that's when we started to change things around for us. when we purchased
that franchise, remember, uh, Paden, we had, like I said, we had no business experience, had
never owned anything in terms of business, had never ran one, right?
I mean, it was Amway, but hey, you know. I mean, it was a kit. I bought a kit on there. Okay. It
wasn't a, it was a real business, so, [00:09:00] but, uh, here we're, we, you know, we had no
managerial experience to talk of, but we had, uh, a dream. We had a desire. We wanted to
make things, something of ourselves wanted to succeed.
Right. And being in this country that affords you everything, I believe, I believe. We figure, well, if
we're gonna take chance, this is it. Right? We are very blessed to have a franchisor that kind of
showed the rope.
Paden: Mm-hmm.
Paul: Went to work. when we started a company a few months later, I lost my job as a systems
engineer. So I said, well, you know what, I'm not gonna look for another job. You know, this is
my job. I'm gonna try to build this business. My wife Jones still had her job. I said, did as
administrator. So, so why don't you stay on that one?
At least that can help us put foot on the table, right? While I try to, this. And so I stayed home
working on that. In fact, uh, we had, like I said, we had no money starting out as most [00:10:00]
folks, most entrepreneurs who bootstraps of do. Uh, so we started from the, our office was the
basement of our home, our townhouse. Right? I had two phones, one for clients, one for
caregivers. Right. And, you know, that's how we operated.
our office actually was. you know, that's where we met potential employees. And you know why
Payton? Because at a library could get you to fill out the form, the application. I could get you a
driver's license, social security card, make copies 'cause a copyright there.
Right? I could meet people
Paden: make a coffee,
Paul: was the office,
Paden: Mm-hmm.
Paul: off and.
Paden: Yep.
Paul: And then, uh, comp there would mail out some checks, and then sometimes we'd meet
people at McDonald's to give 'em their checks, uh, Wendy's or whatever. I mean, that's, that's
how we did it. You know, we just, we just did what we had to do. I was the, uh, HR manager,
office manager, doing payroll, paying bills.
I mean, we did what we had to do. I mean, you know, it was just us. But then, uh, we're blessed
[00:11:00] because our work paid off. Over time, you know, over time we started building up
clients. Okay. We started, it started growing. You know, we're blessed, like I said. Um, and my
wife was able to quit her job, alright? Within two years of us starting the business.
I mean, if, it was interesting, Peter, and I gotta tell you this, because when she went to quit her
job, she was a contractor with the, with the federal government. And her, federal government
representative asked us, well, is it the. Said, no, it's not the money. He was willing to give her
more money to stay.
Okay. She said, no, it's not the money. He said, well, if it's not the money, it's not much I can do.
So if you have to leave, you have to leave. So she walked away from a job. It was pretty, I
mean, at that time for us it was a lot of money. You know, it was not quite a hundred thousand,
but it was, to us it was, it was big money.
It was, it was, I think, upper seventies, thereabouts. But to us it was big money. But she walked
away from it to pursue what we were building. And, we started growing it. We able to hire folks
along the way, grew it from one office to a [00:12:00] second office. It was interesting because,
remember I told you the first office was about the first office for a, a little under about 12,000
something.
The second one was paid for by the first one, and the second one was twice as large as the first
one. I mean, that's something to say about dreams, isn't it? So, uh, we just, we just kept
working, kept serving, you know? 'cause our goal has always been to just serve, you know, I
mean, 'cause when you look at us seniors, they've put, put out so much time and they've done
so much for us and our nation and in that time of need, they need some, they need someone to
be able to take care of them as well.
And so we're able to build our business from there to another office, to a fourth office. over the
years we've served about, I would say north of, uh, several thousand people who've served.
we've employed thousands of people.
So that's what, that's what the story has been. Uh, Peter, it is possible at the end of the day, it is
possible in America. I believe that we'll clearly succeed here in America because of the
American people, the American system, and what hard work and belief and desire [00:13:00]
can do. So that's our.
Paden: Paul, you have a, uh, you have an amazing story there. You have the. Yeah, you have
the, uh, and you know, and, and in my opinion, you, you have kind of like that, classic immigrant
story, right? Where you, you know, you came, you.
know, like the, the, the American dream or what everybody calls the American the hardworking
immigrant, right? That came here, worked his butt off, had tons of disadvantages, you, know,
from the accent to not, you know, not knowing the culture. all those things. And. you. know,
between you. and your wife, you. just made a decision and said, this is our dream, this is what
we're going to do, and really left yourself no other options.
And it's amazing when you.
guys leave yourself no other options what actually gets done, right?
Paul: Yeah, a hundred percent. No, you're right. You're right. You are right. I mean, hey, the, our
only option was go forward,
Paden: Yeah.
Paul: play.
Paden: Yeah.
Paul: had to keep going, you know, I mean, and you, you're so right. You know, again, like I
[00:14:00] said, I mean, I think it's testament to where we are, you know, the American people,
uh, the system we have here that affords us to be able to do this.
Paden, I mean, you know, um, I believe nowhere else would this have been possible. Okay. I
mean, and, uh, to be able to serve, to be able to do something you'd love to do. I mean, like I
said, starting out, I did not believe this, this was gonna work. Honestly, I did not. My wife felt it
was somehow she had that innate feeling that it would work, but I was like, okay, whatever.
Let me just support my wife. Right? when you put service first. We care about others, our clients
are like, it could be my dad, it could be my mom, or my grandfather, or my, or my grandmother.
Okay. I mean, once you approach people that way, you know, you just serve, just do the right
thing because it is the right thing to do.
Paden: Yeah,
Paul: You get rewarded for it. And you know, I'm sure that's what you do. I mean, you bring folks
on, on your podcast to share, I mean, something you don't, you don't get anything outta this.
You wanna just have, it's a platform folks to share. And I think once you do [00:15:00] that, you
know, um, it's amazing what good things come out of it.
Paden: yeah.
Yeah. And I would say it's, just like the serving without expectations of necessarily anything
return. Right? And, and, and it's just because of outta duty. It's outta your job. It's out of the right
thing to do, um, whatever that is. But it, it's serving without expectations. Knowing actually
though, even if, you know, without direct expectations, but knowing that if you do this long
enough.
You actually, you actually will get great rewards for
Paul: yes, yes. I mean, what, like I said, what goes around comes around. If you put a good out
there, you know it's gonna come back. It has to, I mean, that's, it's all, isn't it? It's a law, you
know? So to continue to my, my story, uh, period in what we, uh, eventually with the home care
again, I'd say about 10 years into 10, 12 years into our business, we've been in business 23
years now.
And, uh, so 10 years into my, our business, I.
Paden: Sure.
Paul: We've scaled this mountain, you know? Right. What else is there to scale? [00:16:00] So
that's the way I felt. I felt kind of bored, you know? I was, uh, I said, God, I mean, I know, you
know, I'm thankful what we've done, you've helped us accomplish here. I said, but could there
be something else you want me to do? That was me.
Okay. My well, but if you ask my wife, she, she tell something totally different. She felt differently
about it, but that was me. And so, um, I usually go outta walks in the morning. So one day I was
out walking and uh, usually when I walk I listen to audio messages and on YouTube, whatnot. I
was doing that. And, uh, this gentleman came on, um, he said, well, you know, a lot of folks don't
succeed in life because they don't know what they want, know, they don't know what they want.
And he says, he says, A lot of it's ignorance. He said, ignorance is not a bad thing. It just means
you just don't know. He said, well, ignorant or something. What solves ignorance. What, what
kills it? What, what resolves it. Knowledge. So when you get knowledge, it then takes over.
Okay? So if you have, if you are ignorant of something, just get [00:17:00] knowledge and then
you get educated on it. You know what you want. I said, wow, that's my guy. And he said, it's
almost like darkness and light. Okay. when you have darkness, what do you, what do you bring
to change that darkness?
You bring light, right? That's what you need to do. So, I looked this gentleman up, signed up for
his coaching program. He became my mentor. For a year. Okay. And he told me that, again, that
gentleman made a difference in my life. I would say that he's the second person that has really
impacted my life.
The first is my father, my dad, who was of late now. Uh, but this gentleman, the second person
that impacted my life, uh, Payden because he was able to open up some things about me,
especially about who I could be
that I had never known. Okay. He said that the difference, he told me that, it was all up to me.
If it was to me, it was up to me that I had to grow internally to become the person that, to make
whatever changes I needed to make, whatever success I had to do was inside of me. I had to
be, I had to be so I could do so. I could [00:18:00] have, okay, so that made a big difference. I
mean, it made a big difference.
And, uh, I gotta say, when I signed up for this program, Payden, my wife did not even know. I did
this behind my wife's,
Paden: You didn't.
Paul: didn't know. Yeah. Joan did not know. It was interesting. Uh, but she found out pretty
quickly because once I was on his program, I had to change certain habits because it's all about
habit changing.
Right. You know, I mean, you, you know this.
Paden: Yeah. Oh Yeah. Everything's habits, right?
Paul: so I had to change. I mean, I was wake, I wake up early, you know, like five o'. Follow his
program and things. So my wife started noticing, you know, it was, she was noticing changes in
me. I mean, the way I would relate to her was different, you know, the way I relate to our
employees was different. The way we show up in life was different.
And that makes all the difference. There are all these little changes that we, that we, once we
start making them, they have a big impact down the road. It's not gonna happen tomorrow, but
it's, you've set the wheels of change and you know, on the path, so to [00:19:00] speak. So,
yeah. And then that took us to where we're today.
Paden: yeah, I love that too. You know, and it's, just from my interactions with you, Paul, I think
you're a guy that, kind of has a burning desire to continue to build and grow
Paul: Yes. Thank you.
Paden: and I, and I think that's obvious with you. one thing is, you know, I, that that factor in of
itself is pretty, um, a small percentage of the population.
so you.
know that that makes you a, a, a fairly unique guy. And, and then on top of that, you, have kind
of like a burning curiosity as well and, and the humbleness to be, you.
know, You, say you? started diving into personal development and, and learning from all these
different mentors.
I love to know who's some of those key people were in your life, just from YouTube videos and
books and different things. That's another thing that most people just aren't willing to do, or, or
they may, maybe they are willing to start diving into some of that education, self-development,
but then they never take the next step of, of actually executing anything.
the secret of a lot of like shows like this or [00:20:00] personal development or whatever is like
98% of the people listening to this won't do anything with the information. And that said, right.
Paul: Yeah.
Paden: Um, but they absolutely can. Right? They absolutely can. If they're willing to
Paul: Yes, yes, yes.
But you're right. I mean, but you see, I think that, um, I think to me, you know, it came down to
how, how badly do you want it, you know, how badly do you want it, what's your desire? Like,
they used to tell us at Amway, and my mentors told me this, if you could become whoever,
whoever you wanted to become, who would you be?
If you could achieve anything out there if money was not an object or an issue, where would you
live? Who would you be? Who would you be with? Where would you go on vacation? How
would you take care of family? See, the point is, is that, you know, we have to realize at a
certain point, and this happened to me, Payden, I got to a point where it was, I mean, we could
afford to, you know, put foot on the table, pay the mortgage, right, take care of the kids and
whatnot.
We could do that. And then [00:21:00] what? And then what? I mean, at the end of the day, it's
more about your legacy. It's what you impact others, how you impact others to me anyway. I
mean, I'm sure to you as well, it's, I think it's more about the giving part. What difference are we
making? As I said before, uh, Payden, uh, you put this podcast here to serve, I'm sure.
It's about service. It's about making a difference. Right. And once you about that, but you can't,
you know, and, and the other thing also, p we cannot pour from a, empty cup, can't we? Right.
You gotta feel, I learned that pretty quickly, that for me to be able to serve and do what God has
called me to do, to make a difference, how to feel my cup, because I cannot pour from an my
cup
Paden: Yep.
Paul: I just wanna show me that, Hey Paul, you know, you have it in you. This is how you bring
your water out to be able to serve. And that's what I did. for most of us, I mean, I would say just
about everyone, they wanna make a difference.
They wanna be able to, support a family member if need be. They want be to take care of the,
the church [00:22:00] if, if they're asked to, to do something right. be a forceful good. That only
comes from listen to folks like yourself. Like I heard, I heard you as I was telling you earlier
when we, before we got on, I heard you talk, interviewing, chance McLean of Heritage films,
right?
I mean, what he was doing with the work he's doing that impressed the heck outta me and I told
you I'm gonna be in touch with him. Right. Prior to that, you talked to, you also interviewed Dr.
Katherine, the slip. I mean, that's difference makers. I think that's what it's all about.
It's about serving. So yes, a lot of folks may dunno what they want, but the question I ask a lot of
people is that, are you happy doing what you, are you happy? If you're not, something's gotta
change. And you have that power, you have that. I can't make it for you. I mean, I cannot, I can't
do your pushups for you.
Right. That's what I tell no one's got. Right. That's something we have to.
Paden: Yeah. You gotta do the work. There's no way around it.
Paul: Exactly. But then the point is, is that That choice is available for every one of us,
Paden: Yeah, Paul, that, that kind of leads me into just kind of my next question. You know, I I
know you [00:23:00] work with a lot of different entrepreneurs and, self-development and,
helping lead them down, that route. Like, you know, what do, what do you think is like the
number one hangup or the first, like, I see like the first issue that, you know, generally
entrepreneurs need to, to solve, to start growing or, or even heading towards what they, um.
It's actually want.
Paul: I think to me, uh, Peter, I think it's a mindset. It's how we look at things is we have to
expand our concept of what success means. you know, we have to take more risks. I like, I like
to call 'em calculated risks. We have to have a bigger picture of what it looks like for us. Okay.
Unfortunately, for John and I, when we started out, we didn't, we didn't have that. We had a
dream wanted to succeed. we didn't, we didn't have a big framework. I wish we had, we'd have
a, 10 XA picture. We didn't because we did not know, didn't, we didn't know.
Right. like in life. I mean, and you talked to me, you asked a very good question [00:24:00]
earlier about folks, why folks don't make decisions and whatnot. It's because of where they are. I
mean, I can only make decisions from where I'm, that's not a knock on me. It is where I am.
So I don't knock anyone down. I don't knock anyone for, deciding where, from where they are.
That's fine. That's all you know. But is there a better way to do it? Of course there is. Is that a 10
x way to do it? Of course there's, but let's start from where you are and then kind of grow from
there. So you can do it.
You can make it happen. You have the power and we're gonna help show you how to bring that
power in you so you can make these things happen. But it comes from, it all comes from your
philosophy. You growth oriented, you look at the cop as half full or half empty. Are you a victim or
are of. Because as you know, payden, they, what are called contributing factors and determining
factors, contributing factors are something like politics, the economy, right friends, right traffic,
[00:25:00] clients.
Determining factors are your heart, your gut, your belief, your personality, your desire, your
hunger responsibility. That's what determines your, your what's gonna happen. Someone saying
no to me doesn't really matter. It don't unless I accept it. Right. so what we try to encourage folks
is make your determining factors bigger.
Be strong on those. once you have that desire, you honest, you are hardworking, you're being
responsible. You ought to do you to serve. That's, that's who.
Someones gonna open, open the door because they can see it. but if you want to complain
about, you know, the circumstance, the government, well, come on. You spend all day doing
that, right? We could all do that. Payden
Paden: Oh, I, everybody can do that. I mean, you know, come on, everybody, everybody can
Paul: and, and
Paden: right? Like, everybody can complain about everything that's
Paul: And p and Payden what I ask,
what I asked a lot of people oftentimes is that, [00:26:00] you know, I say, well, we all have 24
hours. I mean, last time I checked. Come. Jeff is able to do so much with this 24.
Paden: prioritization and leverage. Yeah. and you're right. Like, you know, you talk about the
economy or politics or, even as, an immigrant yourself, right? you face challenges that, you
know, certainly I don't know anything about or certainly didn't have to fight through, but like you
absolutely, Paul could have used that as a crutch and every reason to not have.
You know, done everything you've done right. And you would've been justified. And plenty of the
world would've said Paul was right. He was justified in that he couldn't have done it because of
where he was and he was an immigrant. And both those stories are true. Right. And
Paul: No, Peter, you're right. But see, Peter, the point, the challenge is that challenges are not
unique to the United States. Problems are not unique to the United States. Right. Wherever you
are, I mean, you're gonna have to step up and make something happen, right? [00:27:00] Okay.
This just happens to be, in my view, the best place to do it.
American people are so loving, compassionate. The system is, is one that you know, uh, is out
to help us succeed. The system is set up. Do do I see it? Is this help us succeed? I mean, how
come you have so many successful people in America compared the rest of the world? That
should tell us
something.
Paden: Yeah, there's a lot of advantages here for sure. and you know, and it comes back to one
of my, one of my favorite like speakers or, Jim Rohn, if you, you know that name from, probably
from the ninth. Yeah, And he always talks about the, you know, the set of the cells. Like we can
talk about like, you know, the.
The same wind blows on all of us, like, you know, politics and economy and whatever. it's how
you set your sail of your sailboat as to how you get where you want to go. and you can't fight the
world in, the natural forces out there. You just have to try to play the
Paul: well, I mean, you are right. You have to ex, you are so right Peter. You a hundred percent.
my philosophy has always been [00:28:00] learn the system, right? Learn the system, learn how
to work within the system, and then do good by the system and then teach it to others that, are
unfortunate enough to get it.
Because a lot of us have folks that need, I mean, your voice is speaking to certain people. My
voice is speaking to hopefully to certain people too. Okay. And I think the biggest legacy and my,
the way I see it is what difference are you making in the lives of others? Because you could
succeed as one person.
But I think if you are able to, you know, as I often tell people, you know, when, when you have, if
I have a my candle and I light your candle, it doesn't take the light away from my candle. It just
makes our
room brighter.
Paden: A hundred percent. A hundred percent. So, you've obviously, you know, you, you've
obviously had a heck
Paul: you. Thank you.
Paden: yourself, Paul, and, working and helping with a lot of different entrepreneurs, like From
today's perspective, if you could give yourself one piece of advice, you.
know, back at the beginning of your journey, what
Paul: Oh, thank you. Thank you. And, just think big, think really big. You know, and as I tell
people, this greatness in you, [00:29:00] there's greatness in you. Believe in the greatness of
yourself.
Paden: you have no idea.
Paul: We believe there's more. And that's what John and I tell people even now, there's so
much greatness in others, but it takes a decision for us to shift from one end of the scale to the
other.
We have that power. We're fortunate to be in a country where we're able to make change our
lives based on the set of ourselves. Like you talked about that uh uh, Mr. Rome taught us so
many years ago, the set of ourselves, how do we look? What's our philosophy in life? Folks, no
one is coming to rescue us.
If it's to be, it's up to us. It's up to us. We, and, but the good, the good thing is that we have the
power though. Because whenever, the way I look at this, whenever you blame someone, guess
what? You're giving your power away. I don't think, want to do that. I don't think, want to do that.
There's greatness in every one of us.
There's great, and then we cannot do, we can only do better. We cannot do good in the world. if
we're, we become [00:30:00] successful, right? Because you can't, you cannot pour from an,
empty cup. Doesn't work. That's why Judy and I, from our, from our home care company, which
we serve seniors, decided to start this coaching business.
It made so much difference because you see a lot of people, you know, uh, not succeeding,
because the mindset is wrong. Okay. It's victimhood. The system is, is stacked against me. Uh,
you know, I can't get in, uh, whatever, whatever, whatever. No, no. It's about how you look at
things.
I mean, if you walk in there, you just, you just gotta remember that along the way there's gonna
be challenges. It happens to every one of us. I'm sure Peter, in your business, you've had
challenges. We all have them. that's what we tell a lot of people, you know,
Paden: a couple.
Paul: like I said, for us, we just, when we started, we just, we approached invest.
We said, listen, we're gonna just keep going. Hopefully, hopefully, because we felt we're led by
faith to do what we do. And then eventually we started that coaching business.
Paden: Yeah. And I that, that's great advice. And I.
think that [00:31:00] was, probably the one piece of advice I'd give myself, you know, 10, 11
years ago or whenever it was. definitely not thinking big enough because I would've thought big
enough early, I probably would've skipped a few steps and not have to just like level up one step
at a time because I didn't think it was possible to
Paul: Yeah.
But Peter, I also think, I also think also that it's part of our journey. I mean, I think that, you know,
I mean, like, Steve Jobs I think is, yeah.
Paden: Oh
Paul: can, you can connect the dots looking backwards, right?
You can't connect them looking forwards, right? So I think it's part of our process, I think to me, I
mean, you know, why did we finally get into home care? Think about it, Joan well, she came
from England here to the United States. She became a certified nursing assistant. So she
started to learn the ropes from the, from the ground up, okay?
I believe, you know, personal faith, I believe God. Up to get that industry, but want us to know
we're getting into.
Paden: yeah, and I think,
it was because you guys made a decision, right? You had the faith, you made a decision, you,
you burned the [00:32:00] boats per se, right? Like, because if you didn't, if you didn't make that
decision, what would've stopped you on your
Paul: Yeah,
Paden: about anything, since you did make that decision that you're not turning back, literally
nothing can stop. It is literally just
Paul: That's what, in fact, that's what we tell, that's what we tell our folks. Your one decision,
your one decision away from whatever, the better life. Better vacation, more money, whatever it
is. Your one
Paden: Mm-hmm.
Paul: And I think the sooner we make it, the better.
Now
for some of us, like I said, it may take a while because of challenges, but I think it comes down
to the mindset.
Getting someone that can help you help guide someone who's walk to walk. And that's why I
love what we do at coaching because you know, we, when we talk to folks, we've walked the
walk, right? I mean, it may not be the same industry, but then we've walk in life. These are
principles, what you and I talking about here, are principles, the principles for life If you follow
these principles, you'll succeed. It's gonna happen for you. It's not a, it's not a matter of if it's
gonna [00:33:00] happen, it's at all.
Paden: Yeah, it's just a matter of when, right? And, and, and Yes.
there's, you know, with everything in life, there's some luck that comes to, to it where, you know,
some, maybe some big opportunity falls in your lap or whatever, but like, you have to be
prepared for that. You have to put yourself in position for years in advance to, for this one
opportunity to just fall in your lap and you can hit a home run because it's an easy pitch for you.
Uh, and then everybody will call you lucky.
Paul: agree. I mean,
Paden: The luck was the preparation for the
Paul: well, the point is, is that you are right. You're so right, Peter. I believe that when you,
commit, like you talked about, you commit and not just, you don't just like something, you
commit to it. You know, you give yourself, you say, listen, this is what I'm gonna do, it's just
green light.
You know, this is what I'm gonna do. You know, I think that, start having, and as, as Mr. Room
taught us. You know the universe conspires, right? It comes across the doors open for you
because you show up differently. You show up differently, [00:34:00] right? I mean, and no does
not mean no to you, right?
You look at things, you know, you see things from a different vantage point. And, and, and like
they say, you know, when you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change.
So you start making a difference. I think you start being more of a, a participant in life.
Paden: Yeah,
And it's so easy to just not participate in life. I mean, you can just kind of go, you know, just do
your thing. Not really set much in tension, you know, intentions or whatnot. And, in today's world,
you know, we live in a fairly safe. You know, like I.
you know, I'm talking through about human history, right?
Like, we don't have less problems than
Paul: I agree.
Paden: ancestors have, right? Uh, so it's easy to just skate by, right? Like, you know, and, and
live your life. And that's, you know, that's what you wanna do. Great.
Paul: it all comes down to your belief system. You know what, what is your philosophy, Jordan?
And I believe that we live in an abandoned universe, right? I mean, you look at it, when you
plant one seed of corn, you don't get one point. I don't get one corn.
I mean, as much fish as we eat, you know, the, the oceans don't, [00:35:00] don't run, don't run
outta fish, right? I mean, you know, so we live in a Bon Bond universe. What part of that belongs
to us? What part am I willing to be, step up and get for me so I can serve not just for me, so I
can be force for good? Because the more you have, the more you can do.
Paden: That's great stuff, Paul. Great stuff. Paul. This has been a great conversation. the
listeners and whatnot, what's the best way they can get to know more about you.
and your wife, your business,
they can reach us. The, um, any of your listeners, uh, can reach us@premierdestiny.com the
easy email is ask. Joan and paul.com in, in fact, what I'm probably gonna do is I'm gonna email
it to you, uh, page so you can put in the show notes if you don't mind. And what I'll do is that, uh,
I'm gonna offer to all your listeners a free ebook version of my wife's book.
Paul: It's, uh, a, it's called the, um, money Locates. You, my wife wrote this book a couple years
ago. It is an international bestseller. Okay? And then a bestseller helps folks, [00:36:00] uh,
really attract money to themselves. It's spiritually based. we believe that's really gonna do a lot
of good for folks out there, you know, uh, in closing, Payden, I want to thank you again for this
opportunity to share with you today.
I believe Payden, my wife and I do that there's greatness in every one of us, you know, and Jill
and I wanna folks bring it up if that's what choose,
Paden: Yep.
Paul: believe, that is a more powerful version of you. The audience willing to emerge a version
free from limitations, full of purpose, and ready to impact the world.
And at Premier, that's what we do. We help, we help home care agency owners, professionals
and everyday visionaries to harness their God given gifts, to be more. Do more and half more.
This, uh, this coaching isn't just a call, it's not just a, a job for us. Uh, uh, Payden, it's a calling.
It's a calling.
We're ready to walk. Whoever wants to, to really get out there and make a difference in their
lives. If you're ready to stretch your thinking, grow your impact, and live abundantly, let's talk
your [00:37:00] one decision in one decision away from the life you want to live, the difference
you want to make, the income you want to create the legacy.
Wanna, because all of us live in an abundant universe, let's help you make it. If that's what you
want, again, you can reach, reach out to us at uh, www dot, ask Joan and Paul all spelled it. Ask
Jo, Joan and paul.com or premier ty.com. But again, thank you so much, Payden. It's been an
honor.
Paden: Yeah, absolutely. Paul. I can tell you just from hearing the passion in your voice, you're,
you're obviously doing, um, doing what you're supposed to be doing right now. So that's, uh,
that's, that's awesome. listeners, absolutely. you. know, if you.
connect with Paul or, um, anything you.
had to say there, absolutely check 'em out
Paul: Thank you so much, Peter. Thank
Paden: we'll catch you. next time.
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